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One of the things that I keep hearing is that many heterosexual millennials (and some genXers and genZers) do not get that porn really is not a manual or instruction book (this Ted Talk you watched is from 2009!). And understanding porn is something we have to really have clear when we have sex with the person we like/love/want/fuck. As Cindy Gallop  mentioned, porn seem to have taken on the role of teaching sex education to people and that has shifted people's perception of what sex can be. As recently as 2021, Billie Eillish (who was born after the new Millenium started) has talked about how porn totally misled her about sex and how having watched it at an early age twisted the idea she had of sex.

As as consumer of porn, I do understand how our priorities could get switched by what we watch. But I did not know that straight people would have such a strong opinion about what porn has done to some. I’m not a gold star gay but my knowledge of heterosexual nookie is nebulous at best. Here's what Infidel was writing about what he sees as the influence of porn on heterosexuals:

This suggests, though, that American society is splitting into sexual haves and have-nots -- a "privileged" class engaged in healthy sexuality within stable monogamous relationships based on strong emotional commitment, vs the deprived who exist in a chaos of shallow transient hook-ups, "kink", and anonymous encounters, disdaining those who live stable lives ("lame" and "boring"), and eventually sinking deeper and deeper into a morass of ever-weirder perversions in pursuit of the inchoate something that they know, deep down, is missing -- never realizing that their way of life is dragging them inexorably further and further away from it.  I don't even want to think about what their old age will be like.

It took me a second to digest this part; the post is longer and it touches on several points, but I think this was the part that most stuck out for me, given that my knowledge about heterosexual sexual relationships is somehow limited, but this somehow did not fit with what I have read and observed. First, I don't really think that monogamy must be the only alternative for heterosexual relationships (even though it is the preferred relationship status for many straight couples), I know how the notion of monogamy has destroyed many a straight relationship that could indeed have benefitted from another approach.  I also think that non-monogamous or monogamish relationships can be as strong as monogamous ones. I think my views on monogamy for straight couples changed after I read Sex at Dawn by Ryan and Jethá. I have known for many years that monogamy is not the rule for many same sex couples or for polyamorous people but for years I thought that it was the only option for heterosexual couples. I know, shocking.

Second, I don't really think that straight people who have hookups are deprived or unable to make deep connections.  I don't think that about gay people either, and gay people have had hookups and anonymous encounters because of the way society viewed us for years and years (I've known gay men who have had anonymous sex since they were in their twenties and are now in their sixties and are perfectly balanced individuals in other aspects of their lives). Conversely, I don't think that LGBTQ couples who decide to be monogamous are lame or boring. Monogamy really works for some people who decide to make that commitment. I don't think that straight people who enjoy hooking up or enjoy kinks are chaotic, either (it shook me to think that Infidel put anal into the 'kink' category for straight people but that would require a whole post in itself!) or that straight people are looking for weird perversions and are constantly missing something in their lives because they explore their sexuality. As a matter of fact, until recently I was convinced that Gen Zrs were having even less sex than previous generations! The more you know, right?

I do think that as both Gallop and Infidel mention, porn has indeed taken the place of sex education for many people in many cases but I think that it's because people do not get a healthy, structured sex education foundation. There is a push for abstinence-only education in this country that comes from the religulous that has gutted sex ed in many places. There are no frank conversations about sex from parents (that seem ashamed of anything related to sex) or from educators (who fear they'll be sued into oblivion if they talk about it), so people go for the next best thing: porn. Especially now that everybody carries a computer in their hand at all times and porn is readily available online. And I think that it is this alternative what has somehow shifted the conversation. Cindy Gallop is right: porn is not a guide. But that's something that needs to be changed through conversations and trough education. There's still a stigma attached to anything 'sexual' and the notion that there should be one and only one way to approach sex and sexual activity. It seems to me that society needs a deeper, healthier, more nuanced approach to sexuality (both heterosexual and non-heterosexual). I'm sure it cannot be a black/white, good/bad kind of issue. Sexuality is way too complex and complicated to be circumscribed to that binary.

XOXO

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  1. I'm probably weird, but I learned everything I needed, right from porn. My parents never explained anything to me. And I didn't even talk about sex with friends, because I was terribly shy. The first time I had sex I applied what I had seen in the porn videos and it worked perfectly.

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    1. Oh, by the time my parents wanted to have 'the talk' I had already had sex. And I'm super glad your first time went well! Yay!
      Good that porn was useful.

      XOXO

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    2. my parents would be the last people who could help me with speeches. I repeat: I learned everything from porn. And I have been an excellent pupil.

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  2. My generation learned everything from porn, there was never any discussion regarding sex. The current, much younger generation is much different. I hear conversations among them at work, in the lunchroom, and have to laugh sometimes. Things are so much different now.

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    1. I think there's a side of porn that's useful: it demystifies sex. The flip side is that expectations are skewed and people learn the hard way that correlation is not causation.
      But yes, things are very different now.

      XOXO

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  3. Anonymous6/01/2022

    HuntleyBiGuy:
    I did have a rudimentary sex ed class in high school, nothing was discussed at home. If memory serves (it was eons ago), it was a few classes during health class and was very clinical, of course. I think I learned much more through porn, especially for M2M sex. But that was also colored by who I am. I’m not a dominant person, and feel strongly that there should be satisfaction for both (all?) participants.

    I tend to agree, in today’s society most sexual knowledge comes from porn and friends.

    XOXO 👨🏼‍❤️‍💋‍👨🏽

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    1. Same.
      I studied with priests, so you can imagine it was strictly biology and procreation. And those porn lessons worked very well. If you need a recommendation....

      XOXO

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  4. Anonymous6/01/2022

    Big says,
    Oh, the "sex ed" back in my youth came from a ***very*** rudimentary and clinical portion of the Biology and Health class. The basics of reproduction were taught but nothing about "sex." If one wanted any sex education, one waited until engagement and Marriage Counseling (sometimes required before any wedding took place) at the church.
    But what is being suggested here is that porn didn't exist. Oh, goodness, yes! it did! It wasn't as readily available, but it could be found and had. Though, I will agree that the majority of kids now are seeing porn on their phones, laptops, iPads, and misconstruing what they view as normal marital sexual relationships. And it's very far from reality. Current surveys indicate that heteros are having less sex - even among married couples. I blame religion for throwing sexuality back into the Victorian age. (Though, if the religious bigots did any research at all, they'd find out that folks were having plenty of sex - they just hid it well.) XOXO

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    1. Absolutely.
      And I have heard of marriage counseling courses at the church! I think one of my cousins had to go through it and I had QUESTIONS. Especially, if the priest never had sex, how was he going to advise them?
      And I agree that the comments may be related to the availability of porn? At least I took Billie's comments in that context.

      XOXO

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  5. The only harmful thing about porn is that it portrays no role for mutual consent, and this is the wrong idea which people get from it -- that they don't need to get consent from their partners about whether they want or enjoy particular sex acts. Like in the video -- there's nothing inherently wrong or bad about "facials" IF the other person freely agrees to it and wants it too.

    When it comes to sex education, there's no need for educators to go into the details of various sex acts (which is what parents fear). The main things to be stressed in sex education are: (1) the need for protection and birth control, and (2) the need for consent from the partner not just for sex generally, but for particular sex acts. People need to learn to discuss their desires and proclivities openly with potential sex partners, not just assume they have "the right" to do whatever they want. And such discussions can be very hot too, so BONUS!

    I'm not surprised that Infidel has questionable ideas about sex, kink, etc. I haven't read his blog since he booted me out of his comments section more than a year ago for supporting transgender rights.

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    1. Yes!
      Consent. And that is not as obvious in heterosexual porn, because it's made by men for men, so women are definitely objectified. And I love facials. Hell, I have even asked for some: consent, right?
      And parents fear that kids will stop fearing sex. That's the whole thing. Parents use sex as a tool to exert power (same as the church) and when young people learn what sex is and how it works, parents and the church lose power.
      And I can totally believe Infidel booted you. His views are at times quite extreme. He's peculiar in some aspects. I'm terribly curious about him.
      And you know what curiosity did to the kitty, right?

      XOXO

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  6. Well, I left you a great comment, but Blogger ate it!

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    1. Anonymous6/01/2022

      HuntleyBiGuy:
      I’ve had that happen enough times to me that I now copy the comment before I post it. If it happene three times, I guess my comment isn’t good enough 😆

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    2. Oh, Google is acting a FOOL!

      XOXO

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  7. She is so fucking cool and, sadly, so fucking right. Perfect. What a great idea. This is truly inspiring. And what else have those generations gotten the wrong idea about... let's start with their parent's basement...

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    1. She is right!
      And I found it illuminating because my knowledge of straight sex is somehow limited.

      XOXO

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