ASK a Poly
Now, this is something I've been very curious about for awhile now. After I read Sex at Dawn (which I recommend), and seeing the myriad articles that have popped this year alone about 'radical monogamy' I decided to post this video. After all, isn't it better to hear people who know what they're talking about discuss something that we know nothing about?
You know I love @Mr.Kristofer and @pupamp and that they've been on this blog before. What I didn't know is that they're in a polyamorous relationship and that, of course made me curious, because I think it takes a certain level of maturity to do that (you're not only having a relationship and fixing things with one person, but with two or more!) so yes.
First, let's talk about polyamory:
Polyamory is a non-monogamous approach to love and dating in which people are consensually involved with more than one person at a time. At its core, being in a polyamorous relationship means investing in a dating structure that frames love as abundant. The beautiful thing about polyamory is it can take a near-infinite number of forms. There are throuples, comprised of three people who date each other together; solo polyamorists, who may have many lovers without having a primary partner; a V, where one person dates two people who do not date each other; and an infinite number of other ways to practice polyamory.
Full disclaimer: I have been part of a triad. More specifically, a V. That is, a relationship where one person is involved with other two people. The two uninvolved members could be part of a 'don't ask, don't tell' arrangement or an open relationship. I have never been part of a relationship where all the member are involved at the same time and have sex and/or share space with each other, though.
Polyamory is different to open relationships and to non-monogamy. Non-monogamy is kind of an umbrella term under which several permutations of relationships rest. Open relationships can refer to many arrangements in witch the members of a relationship have sex or other relationships with somebody different to their main partner. I know. It seems like a lot. But it's not. Many people have been in this kind of relationship since, like, forever. Especially queer people who usually love 'outside the norm'.
And here's what I learned from Amp's and Mr. Kristofer's convo:
- We have been conditioned that one person will fulfill all your needs. When you are in a poly relationship, you don't put the onus of catering to all your emotional needs on one person.
- You can be in a 'monogamish' relationship (thanks, Dan Savage) and appear monogamous to the world while your relationship is open to the members of the couple.
- Just because you love someone in a certain way, it does not take from your love towards another person.
- Polyamory does not work for everybody. People are wired differently and have different needs and thresholds in relationships.
- Cheating is not having sex with someone else, lying is what is considered cheating in a poly relationship.
- Jealousy in a Poly relationship usually has to do with the time you spend with the people in your relationship. You need to communicate well and articulate your needs. And jealousy is different to envy.
- As in monogamous relationships, poly relationships deal with attachment and communication. They need work.
- Stop trying to make Poly happen. It either comes naturally or not.
- Some people have been in a poly relationship for eight years, some others for twenty five. Yep, they're like monogamous relationships.
- The second you add a person in, you'll get another personality, quirks, moods, styles of communication and baggage.
- 20% of Americans report that they have been in a non-monogamous relationship.
Who knew??
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I think there are people who choose to be unfulfilled by one person and so they go looking for something else; it's all good.
ReplyDeleteI think there are people that are fulfilled by monogamy--that would be me--and so I don't go looking; it's all good.
We have a close friend who's been in a thruple for nearly a decade now and it only works, as they all say, by being open and honest always; it's all good.
Do what makes you happiest, but do it in honesty or else it won't work and won't satisfy you and you'll end up hurt.
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rAmen!
DeleteSome people cannot do monogamous relationships. Some people cannot do polyamorous relationships. It's up to everybody to find their happy middle. I was in a V for seven years, so yeah.
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Does this apply to Twitter sex?
ReplyDeleteHahaha
DeleteWell, that depends on what your other half (or other third?) think about emotional intimacy or porn. Some people couldn't care less. Some people consider it a personal affront...
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Anything can work, it depends on the people. And it's not said that managing a relationship with a single person is easier than managing a polygamous relationship. The question is similar to that of open or closed couples: what destroys a couple can keep another couple alive.
ReplyDeleteCorrect.
DeleteIf anything a poly relationship would require more work (it's more than two people!) And you are correct: what destroys a couple can keep another couple alive. Wise words.
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I wonder if there is such a thing as being a virtual poly? It seems that all the men that I love today are only known to me on social media as opposed to in person.
ReplyDeleteIt could be a thing.
DeleteEspecially after the internet and social media took over, we tend to form very strong relationships online. Sometimes the can stand the F2F, sometimes they are better kept online...
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I think the construct of monogamy is very unhealthy. There are all sorts of love out there... I have been openly poly since 2013. My primary relationships are very important to my well-being, so I take their well-being very seriously. It's a huge responsibility, but love finds a way - seriously. I spent years being miserable, trying to adhere to a concept that belongs to someone else. That's the freedom of being queer... being able to construct a life with values which actually work for you. I care deeply for my people - and some of the relationships either have never been sexual or are no longer sexual - but the love continues, it simply redefines itself due to circumstances. Is it for everybody? No. Oh, and don't confuse it with Big Love and that Mormon BS. That's about control and ego. True poly is simply valuing people and treasuring them as they are... you want them to succeed. Their success in life, their happiness is yours, too. In a way, it's like being a gay parent... but they're peers... adults. Thanks for shedding some light on this. Kizzes.
ReplyDeleteThere's nothing worse than trying to be what others want us to be. Nothing.
DeleteQueer relationships have always been outside the norm (monogamy) and many thrive when they're non-conventional.
And the love stays there. I have people in my life that are no longer even in the same city and are in their own monogamous relationships now and we're still as close as we were when we slept together.
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Big says,
ReplyDeletePolyamory is actually a very good thing for many people for exactly the main reason stated: You cannot get ***everything*** you need emotionally from a single person. You've heard the term "work wife" or "work husband"? That's what those relationships provide with zero sex. I've had both. Yes, I have. It's the sex thing that causes the trouble unless everyone is "in the know." XOXO
I know, right??
DeleteI think that many people have a 'work husband' and their main relationship does not suffer. And sex can be troublesome. Yes, it can.
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